Know Ya Flow

Awakening Creative Power Through The Womb w/Gaia Balbi

Lauren Barton

We mark Diwali by reframing darkness as fertile ground for light, then move into the womb as a universal creative center for all bodies and a portal for ideas, purpose, and aligned action. Gaia shares practices to live guided, heal stored trauma, and balance feminine and masculine energy with grounded structure.

• Diwali as light emerging from potential, not opposition
• The womb as creative center beyond gender and childbirth
• Separation from intuition through ego and constant thinking
• Water and cellular memory storing trauma and patterns
• Energetic roots informing physical symptoms and healing
• Balancing receptivity with structure for aligned action
• Rituals and daily practice to hear guidance clearly
• Collective circles as safe containers that accelerate healing
• Moving from me to we to birth new social structures
• Practical ways to listen to the body and act with courage

Find Gaia: Instagram @gaiabalbi and gaiabalbi.com


SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to Know Your Flow Podcast, where women in Flow share what they know. I'm your host, Laura Barton. Join me as we talk to women and hear their stories on what they know, how they've grown, and living in flow.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, hello. Today we are back with Gaia. Hi Gaia, how are you?

SPEAKER_05:

Hello. I am super excited, grateful, honored to be here. Yeah. Like I told you before, it's such a special, special day.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Could you tell us what the day is?

SPEAKER_05:

It's Monday, October the 20th. And in the yoga tradition, we celebrate duali, which is it is a Sanskrit word that really translates to array of light and is the celebration of the light. A lot of times it seems celebration of the light over the darkness, but that has come on, you know, later on as we humans begin to put like this is good and this is bad. But the truth, the core of the teaching of Dubali is the understanding that the light, the darkness is not an opposition of the light, that it holds the potential for the light, but that we really embrace that we're always leading in the direction of the light. And we all have that light of consciousness within us, and we can all awaken that within us, enliven that within us to live fulfilled lives, to really be able to see, to see through the eyes of the soul. So it's very special, special day.

SPEAKER_00:

Love that.

SPEAKER_02:

How will you be celebrating?

SPEAKER_05:

Well, I am so grateful I get to teach actually uh yoga journey tonight. So I will be bringing tons of light for that class. To teach anyone afterwards, uh well, I did puja this morning. So puja uh is also from the yoga tradition. A puja is uh a devotional practice. So you you know, like with the the five elements and connecting to to the earth and why not? And um, yeah, we'll be lighting candles tonight also. It's a great, great day to clean your house, to clean it all out, to invite Lakshmi, the goddess of abundance, into your home, into your life. So yeah, Lakshmi is part of the celebration of light. So it's um, yeah, all over India people are like cleaning their houses, and then tonight it's just beautiful, it's just a rays of light all all over. So yeah, it's a good day to clean things out and invite the abundance, right? Like just the releasing, letting go to the abundance. So yeah, wonderful.

SPEAKER_02:

Love that. Awesome. Wanted to talk a little bit about the womb and the power of the womb and why it matters, and some symbolism and some stuff that you have studied or experienced with womb healing, womb awakening, all that sort of stuff. So, could you talk a little bit about kind of what you do, what your background is, and then we can kind of like jump into that if that works.

SPEAKER_05:

Wonderful. I mean, I love that we're gonna talk about the womb and the darkness and the day that we're celebrating the light, getting that in a position. But I was like, you you can't you cannot make this up. It's wonderful. It always works like that when we follow, when we follow the guidance. So, yes, I I am a spiritual teacher, above it all. Like I've always when I asked my mom what I used to play when I was five, she always says you were always a teacher, but in regular school never really aligned in my heart. I am from Peru. That's my homeland. And so the wisdom of the Andes of Peru, the wisdom of the jungles, the wisdom of those ancient traditions are within myself and always have been inspiring to me, always have felt in alignment and right, and in the same way in the mountains of the Himalayas, specifically the north of India. So I have spent a lot of time in those mountains as receiving that wisdom and in os medicine, really open myself to it. But yeah, so a spiritual teacher, I think at this point, that's what's coming up for me. It shows up in many, many different ways. I do channel the teachings uh after seeding and receiving them and uh from my teachers. So I through the practices, that channeling capacity has opened up, as it is a capacity for all of us. But yeah, I do channel the consciousness of light in and through that, just bringing that high consciousness and then that wisdom of those traditions in order for us to embrace it as the way that we have used it actually from the beginning of time, so we can return in a more harmonic and in alignment with our own nature through like a specific tools that we can do. So that's really my intention. Like, how could how do we return to the sacredness? How can we make it part? How can we realize that there is more to life than just going through the emotions of the day and going to jobs that were not fulfilled in and that we're just only living to plan the weekend and the vacation and pay the mortgage and the bills? Like there is more to life than us. And so all that I do really is intentionally moving in the direction of how you can have an experience of that.

SPEAKER_02:

Love that. I feel like you, from my observations of you and from learning from you and things like that. I feel like you really are the embodiment of a spiritual teacher. You really are a teacher, and I feel like you've really devoted your life and embody the teachings that you teach, and you have so much knowledge that you really just want to share. And I love that you really do like live your life just led by your heart and what feels like is guiding you. I think that you call it guided, or I mean, you're just sort of like, oh, well, that feels right. So now I'm gonna do this, and now this feels right, so then I'm gonna do this. And I mean, that's really the only way to live. But yeah, I just I really admire how you really are embodying what you teach and you have so much knowledge to share, but yet you are here on earth with all of us as well, too. And because I think sometimes teachers can sort of be in the cave, and I feel like you really are also living life with us as well and teaching us. So it's a gift to have you and to cross paths with you and to have your resource to all of the community around and things like that. So I just wanted to give you that little shout out um of how I see you and how I think a lot of others see you too, of like the God Gaia exists and shares with us and has devoted her life to this, you know.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, alright. You're making me tear up. Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_05:

I feel like I haven't, you know, I didn't choose it. It just chose me and there was like no other time. And I could totally relate because there was I really wanted to be in the cave.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I remember going to India the first time, uh, you know, like probably eight years ago, and and to say, like, yeah, I'm I'm here to stay because my medicine woman in the jungle of Peru kicked me out.

SPEAKER_06:

So like here I am.

SPEAKER_05:

Right. I've always wanted to do that, and it was it was so precious that every single one of my teachers, right, in the Andes of Peru, and then my teacher in India, and you know, my medicine woman in the jungle, my homeland, also it was like, no, like you chose to be in this body at this time, go out, go, go, go teach it, go share it, go be it, go embody it, go suffer, go struggle and come out of it. And uh, so time and time again. So thank you so much for seeing me. This is such a it's such an such an honor to to have the chance and the opportunity to share what has supported me and as an as an experience, more than I'm coming to teach you something that is so after like as an experience and this invitation to for each and every one of us to to have our own experience, right? Like as my teacher in India says, like, and that was the reason why I was like, oh my God, I really need to like devote my life to to study, because he said, Don't believe anything that I'm saying. That was like my first hatsan, my first like wisdom gathering. Don't believe anything I said, right? Go experience it for yourself. And it was so freeing, so freeing to say, like, oh yes, I don't need to follow anybody, right? I can come in and be curious and be open and be willing, but then go on and and try it for myself. And and is that real? And so when when we speak from that reality, it's it's it has a different frequency, it has a kind of like an invitation. So I guess that will be my invitation today. It's whoever is here is hearing, like just be willing, be willing to um to listen from the heart and and and then don't believe me at all and go try it for yourself.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, totally. I know, man. So, what is it about the womb that holds so much? What is the power of the womb? What are your thoughts on all of that?

SPEAKER_05:

Wonderful. First, I want to say that we're gonna speak about the womb as a place that regardless if you're in a male body or in a female body, we're talking about the energetic space from which we birth into the world. And that doesn't mean human babies also encompasses human babies, but it's our ability to be creators, right? To be creators, because we are not the created past sense, it was done, right? We are the creation, unfolding, continuum, and the place from which we co-create, the place from which we receive the ideas, the innovation, the inspiration, really is that womb located physically, right, in what us in female bodies will point out of like this is my womb, right? But not just in female bodies. So it's above the pubic bone below the belly button, what we call the second energy center. Uh most wisdom traditions refer to that as chakras, right? As those energy centers, main, because there are so many energy points in the body and beyond that. But the main one is that one, is is the second one and is the place, not only at the front, so it's like 360 all around, but this is the place from which we really take ownership of our sovereignty as creators, right? It is says in many different traditions, and even in Christianity, that we were created as the same as the creator. So, in in many wisdom traditions, that is interpreted as oh, yes, the values of the universe are the values of each and every one of us because we're not in the universe, we are the universe, right? Science put it as we are energy, everything is energy, and energy can never be destroyed, only transformed. Thank you, Einstein. And so we are that vibrational feel, not separate, right? That conscious vibrational feel. And because we are it, then we're not separate from, but then also we contain the same values, and the value of the universe is evolution, is creation, is expansion. So that is the value of ourselves. That's why we are here to create. We are creators because we are the universe. That's all that we're here to do. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, totally. Is there any difference in that creator energy between men and women because of the difference of womb spaces and what they do? Or no?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh, the energy uh at the level of energy, really not at all. But a lot of times women can access that because of our connection, because we're being told from the beginning, and especially the conditioning of the past, you know, like just hundreds of years of past culture telling women that their only value is on birthing human beings, right? And the only thing. So we come in with this conditioning, you know, like just that, oh yes, the only thing I'm here to do is to birth a human being. And I also feel that that is the confusion that happens a lot of times with a lot of women. They're not meant to birth human beings, right? I I do a lot of work with uh one-on-one, and I've heard it too many times. Women that said, I adore my kid or my kids, I will die for this being. I don't understand this love is beyond it. But if you tell me to choose it again, I will not. There is something that doesn't feel in alignment, right? I work with many, many women also connecting to the womb that you know, being gone to many, many rounds of IBFs or many, many like tries and like this desperation and this obsession with birthing a human being. And when we really begin to understand, or we really begin to open ourselves to what does birthing really mean, what that creating really means, right? Then we begin to understand what that mothering means, we begin to understand that mothering happens in infinite forms. Just the creator, that creative intelligence of the universe creates in infinite forms, right? Not one leaf is the same, it is infinite. And so the moment that we are clear, the moment that we are really even more and more attuned to our womb, we're clear about why are we calling to birth into this manifested reality? And that's why it's called manifestation, right? Like this space, this earth flame, you can put it in many different ways. But what are you here? What is this that is it really feels like a longing, not a wanting of the mind, like I want to the next house and I want in a relationship, and I want like those are wantings of things that come from the conditioning that we have experienced in our mind, what we think should be or are gonna complete us or make us happy. But really, that way you can, when you are in the intimacy in your own being, you know you're longing for, right? In in that space. So it's not really different, but we have to acknowledge that we are in the earth plane and the the things that are at play being in the earth plane, right? How have you been conditioned? What limited beliefs you carry with yourself, consciously or unconsciously, right? Like from yourself, right? Like that's yourself, but then also from the the tribe that raised you, but then also the collective. So when we understand that, then we can see what it is. But at the energetic level, there is no difference. We are creators and and we are meant to co-create with with the universe.

SPEAKER_02:

Why do you think that we sometimes think that we're separate from the creator and think that we're separate from that energy?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, it's it's part of our our ego, part of like being here on the earthlane and feeling our individuality and experience ourselves only through the senses. So when we are really in the earth plane and we have forgotten that we are that energetic feel, right? That never get destroyed, nearly transforms, when we are disconnected from our essence, right? Our spirit, our soul, when we are disconnected from our nature, when we are disconnecting from nature, then we can only see ourselves as this separate entity that needs to quote, make it happen, right? That needs to hustle and really be always on guard and always protected because there's a hostile universe out there, right? And I'm always trying to it. So when when that is my real experience of life, when I haven't experienced myself as that vibrational field, we tend to fall into the idea that, like, oh no, like just life has just happened, so you just got lucky.

SPEAKER_00:

Ah, okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_05:

You know, you're just like, oh yeah, like lucky you, that happened to you, you know. Of course, there's an order of soul contracts agreements why we decide to be in this body, why we manifested ourselves in this body, but there's really no luck. Gonna be luck. They're galaxies forming at this moment, right? Like the seasons are in the cycle of perfection. Everything is in perfect order, even as we see it as chaos, right? There is always that order, and we just our small selves like, oh yeah, you're that person was just lucky. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_05:

Right, right. Yeah, and that'll also take us into the space of ownership, right? Like we we hear all the time, like say, Oh, I got an idea, right? Where do you get it from? Like, I got an idea, I got a wonderful idea, and uh, it's just that creative intelligence, right? That is co-creating with us through us, right? It's like it's birthing through us, but then our ego, our separation, make us believe like if somebody acts upon your idea, right? It's like, oh my god, they stole my idea. No, nobody can ever steal your idea, right? Like the ideas are coming from the universe, and you're not the only one there in which the universe are planting like seeds in your womb. It's actually planting many, many seeds. And whoever has the courage and the clarity to step forward and manifest it and create it, that is going to be supported, right? Like just part of the way it is. The universe cannot stop creating because that's its value, right? Continue to evolve, right? Continue to create. So the things that we see is that those pulsations of that creation. And just like the iPhone, it needed to be created because our consciousness was calling for it. Yeah. So many probably got the idea, right? And there was one that said, Oh, yes, I'll I'll manifest that.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

So the yeah, so that's that that's the reason why. It's like when we feel that separation, then we don't see ourselves as yeah, with the capacity of create.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, like the individuality that you're that you mentioned, I think that makes a lot of sense. That when we see ourselves as just like individuals and ego and separate and aren't connected. Which if we're living a life that is, you know, quote unquote, obviously we have soul contracts and things unfold the way that they're supposed to, but then also can we be living in a living a life that's unaligned for us and then not be able to create because we're not hearing the messages and acting on them? So then we're in totally like misalignment of our purpose. Does that make sense? If you get the message that you should do this thing, but you're living out of alignment, like how can you trust the messages?

SPEAKER_04:

Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_02:

Like, so if you're totally making sense, yeah, you know, bad choices or not living your truth or whatever, are you gonna miss those opportunities? Yes, completely.

SPEAKER_05:

Right? Because you're gonna feel that earth should do something. And if you're not, you haven't separated yourself from the thoughts, if you really have never had the experience that you are not your thoughts, because you're not. Let's just let's establish that. We are not our thoughts, right? We are not disbodies, we are not our feelings, our emotions, what happened to us, the experiences, the challenges, the triumphs. That's that's not where we are. We we are experiencing that. And that essence, that the witnessers is following many different wisdom traditions, right? Like that essence of who you are is experiencing all of it. But until you don't have the real experience that you're not that, you believe it. So your mind becomes your master, right? And there is that quote that said that the mind is a poor master, but uh, you know, it's just it's a great tool. I'm not quoting exactly, but it's then then your mind is always leading the way. And the mind is filled with fear a lot of times. And that's why it's called the monkey mind. It goes from one thing to the next to the next to the next to the next to the next to the next to the next. And also the mind is part of our survival mode. So is designed to keep us safe at all times. And our reptilian mind, right? Like in the part the back of the brain hasn't really evolved for us to even understand that when we are thrown out of the cave, we're not gonna die because we're not gonna be able to kill the big animals, right? Like we're not living in caves anymore, but we're still there. And so bullying happens and it worked, right? It works perfectly because it plays into our survival mode. So our mind is it's very conditioned and is it's very uh tied into our senses. So I want the chocolate ice cream, and then I want salt, and then I want this, and then I want that, and then it always wants, and it's never ever enough. Nothing is ever enough. So until you don't have a tool, a practice, meaning an action that you take every day to allow yourself to have the real experience for yourself that you're not your thoughts. The noise is so loud that you're not able to really hear the whispers of that intuition, right? It's not as loud. The intuition whispers, and and and the and there are many different ways in which it uses us. There is a feeling, there is a sensation, but if you're not really connected to them, and even if you hear them and you're clear, the mind can say, like, no, that's crazy. Why would you do that? That doesn't make any sense, right? Yeah, and so then we don't follow it, and we continue to choose, and and and we're sobering beings, so right, we have free will, and that's what the universe respects the most. So we have the right to suffer. Like when you choose it, you have the right to suffer, right? And that's the celebration of today's duality that's happening, right? Like that, that even in the suffering, meaning in the darkness, there is potential for the light. So you are allowed to do it because even in that, there is your potential.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely. And I mean, you can spend a long time in your mind and never take a break. Oh, yeah, forever. Lifetimes, right? Which is crazy because you have the choice if you were intentional and knew how to get out of your mind, you know, multiple times a day, or at least once a day, there are practices that you could take, like a walk or a meditation, or just you name it, and you can get out of your mind for just a little bit. And wow, that would make you feel a lot better. But you know, it's crazy to think that some of us, and I it happens to all of us, you know, where sometimes you don't step away and you're just like in your mind listening to your thoughts, thinking they're you for like maybe weeks, and then you're like, Whoa, what the hell have I been doing? That's not real at all. Like, I'm back, you know, and it's it's crazy how fast it can take over without if you're not intentional, you know, don't get space.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, there's actually research. I was listening to it uh a few days ago that when they're like, I mean, aside from brain injury, right? Concussions or like um why not? But if there are if you can go back and there are times in your life that you don't remember, it is just that you is because you weren't present, because you were so caught up in your mind going through the motions that you you cannot really remember what was happening at that time, right? Like, well, I I I don't remember. Like you're with a friend and then somebody talking and it's like it's like, oh gosh, I don't remember at all. You were probably, if you didn't have a brain injury, you were probably caught up in your thoughts. You never stepped outside into life. You were, you know, thinking about life, but not a life. You were not really living your life, you were caught up in your thoughts, you were not really present, and and so then you then you don't even remember, right? And and when we miss life, we miss life. So yeah, it's so important to be to begin there, right? To have that space so then you can get present. And then with presence, then then you then you're clear, you know, in in that direction. But it is like so many people tell me, like, oh yes, as a channeler, you sit down and you just channel your whole life and you know it. It's like, no, that's why I love doing channeling sessions because it can come so clear for others, but not for me.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you're like, I need someone to channel for me.

SPEAKER_06:

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, a lot of times.

SPEAKER_05:

And I I made a declaration, like going to be 11 years this year. Uh, 11 years ago, I was like, I declare and I was like, I am going to live guided, right? Like I am going to uh have a practice, meaning have every day take a conscious action that I am so present that I will ask, right? Guide me, lead me, show me the way. Guide me, lead me, show me the way. And and just creating a space, quiet space to really listen, to really follow that guidance. And a lot of times that's been crazy. And my mind has told me, you know, forever. And I have been into even into fear, like, no, what? But the more, and there are like many times that I was the fear was bigger, and and I didn't follow, right? And then and then I created my own suffering even more. And then when I follow, like just the magic unfolds. Like it's just those synchronicities happened, and and you're just in awe of life. And then the miracle that happens when when you step out of the way, when your small self is telling the universe, I know, right? Like you're birthing galaxies right now, and you're telling the moon when to be new and full and the earth how to spin. But I have a better plan. Let me be in charge, right? When we are in that space, nothing happens. When we're like, whoa, there is this force, whatever you want to call it. It's it's actually beyond what we can name it, right? Because we cannot even understand and and fathom to really even try to. But that pulsation of life, right? Like that that informs that the the flowers went to bloom. When we really attune to that, we realize how just ignorant and how just dumb it is to really think that we have a better plan. And that I have to have my plan, you know, like my life all planned out and everything, and I'm trying really hard to make it because my plan, you plan is only what you can see with your senses and feel, and they're very, very limited. Yeah, very limited.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, you've had 11 years basically of testing this out of living guided. And would you say, I mean, you kind of already did, but would you say that you've saved a lot of energy and that you feel a lot less anxious and that things totally and completely.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, yes, it always saves so much time in the struggle, so just just so much, even in in like the the little things of and I and I tell this when when when I do mentorship and I and I teach people how to connect to their intuition, because it happened to me. It's like even if you have tonight, like you have everything to make, I don't know, chili, and then all of a sudden you feel like, no, I actually should have a quinoa ball, I don't know, per se, but I have to go to the grocery store and I really have that like to go, right? And it happened to me because one time I went to the grocery store and I actually encountered this person that I've been trying to reach for a long time because I knew we needed to collaborate on something, and like I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_06:

I lost her phone number. I it was like weird to reach out through like Instagram and I don't know, and like there she was in the grocery store, right? And um, and she actually was like, hey Gaia!

SPEAKER_05:

And I was like, Oh my god, it wasn't ever about the chili or the quinoa ball, it was not our mind makes it about our quinoa ball or the chili, but when we follow that, we open ourselves to it, but then also in and that's what brings us into the importance or connecting to the healing of the womb, is because a lot of times, yes, the thoughts get in the way, but a lot of those thoughts are playing out out of our traumas, um, our dramas, our conditioning, like I said before, our limited beliefs, our habitual patterns, and all of that is the memory, the cellular memory that is held in the element of water, jala, it's called in the Sanskrit. Um, and the element of water is associated with the womb, with that energy center, right? And so there is wonderful research now. It's a wonderful Japanese researcher that talks about all about the memory of water. So there's like amazing videos on YouTube, you can look it up, but they prove that water actually remembers. And that is the reason why we call it uh muscle memory, because muscles are mostly water, so you learn how to ride a bike and you never forget, right? Like, oh my God, how many times have been driving? It's like, I had no idea how I got here because you're lost in your thoughts and you just navigate it, right? Like that's that's the element of water within us, right? The elements are not outside of ourselves, and that's also part of what our disconnection with nature, right? Like when as humans, we go to a different planet to try to find out life as as we know it. We don't look for humans or for a dog, or like we look for the elements. We look for for earth and for fire and water and air and Space, like we look for the elements, and when the elements are in that connection, then there is life. And so water is within us. We are 70% water. And so we remember, we remember. And we don't only remember what has been joyous for us. And we don't only remember the wisdom and the knowledge, but we also remember our darkness. We will say we will also remember that. And it stays, it stays with us, right? Stays in, and that's why when you talk to people that have PTSD and they have gone through a lot of traumas, right? This was my experience with my own traumas, is visceral. It's real because you feel it in the body, right? And so it's it it is so this element.

SPEAKER_02:

The waters in the body and the trauma that is stored there. So is that sort of because that's what I was gonna ask. Are you are we talking ancestral trauma? Are we talking about you know, life trauma? You know, what kind of things are we talking about when it comes to the water and things like that? All of it. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_05:

So it is the uh, you know, what like the some people call it the DNA coding is in like the you know, the memories of of your cells, like you know, at the DNA level, like way beyond that, that's what happened to you through you can call it lifetimes, you really don't believe in regression, you can call it that energy that never gets destroyed and only transform in transformation and continue to create, and so creating different bodies, different experiences, and so from the beginning of time, right in eternity, and so there is a memory of all all that has been accumulated and all the the experiences of this energy has carry, and so there is also that the memory of of our ancestors because we are in our grandmother's womb, right? When our mothers are in their womb, we are already in our mom's womb, and so we are in our grandmother's womb, and then it's like this link of our ancestors, so we we remember it, and and so that is so important to to connect and and and and to heal and to really pay attention to what's happening in in the womb.

SPEAKER_02:

Is it also one of those things where your root chakra needs to kind of be healthy for then your sacral chakra to be doing its thing, or does it not really matter? Like, does it sort of build when you're talking about like chakras and things like that, does it sort of build upon one another and that's how that works, or can one be out of balance and then that sort of a thing?

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, that question always happens here in the West because we comportamentalize things. Yeah, right, and we things think that's separate. Yeah. Um, we can focus on one energy center knowing that all are being affected at the same time because we are whole. Yeah. And so definitely is super important, and especially because we are on the earth plane, we live here on the earth, right? First, second, and third chakra, we're always working on them all the time because we're here. We need the earth because we need the banks for the river, right? So we need the because if there is no banks for the river, it causes like just destruction all over, right? The waters can be when the earth shakes, there is tsunamis for God's sake. Like, so we're not separate from nature, and so definitely it's in it is important, like that first energy center of the earth, the earth element within us, needs to be in balance, and so then the waters can flow, and then our fire can you know be stoked so you can walk into the space of the heart, right? And sometimes people come and it's like, oh, I just need to work on my heart, that's the only thing. It's like, yes, the heart connects this earth plane to that higher realm of that vibrational field, and so it this is all connected, but at the same time, it's beautiful to recognize um the importance of each and when is it relevant to work on it. I have shared womb healing for many, many years in many different ways, but the guidance that I received when I reach out and we connected because this is like this was been out, there was a longing in my own womb, right? Like, oh, this needs to happen, is because I just I just keep hearing and feeling, right, that this need to birth a new humanity, this need in this moment to birth a new way, because the structures as as we know them, right? Like political, social, economical, like not only here in America, but all around the world are falling apart. And there is this call of like some are in panic and some are trying to fix it, right? To fix what is broken, and some are in fear, and so we're fighting and focusing all of our energy and fighting. And some of us are waiting and in the waiting room, waiting for somebody to come and save us, right? Somebody to do it. But because we are the co-creators of our experience, it is imperative now more than ever that each and every one of us begin to do the healing that we need. So then we are clear and we yes, stop into the longing and the understanding that the longings for my life are never separate. And we begin to move from the me into the we. Like when I am in alignment with my life, that means like it looks like I'm taking care of me. Yes, I feel in alignment, I have a fulfilled life, but it's when it's in alignment with that co-creation, with life itself, it's never separate. Because what you are called to take action on, what you're called to create, is always on service of the collective. And so if we want to create a new humanity in this moment, we want to say, like, oh, something needs to shift. Are you doing your part? Right. Because each and every one of us are part of this creation, right? And we talk about like the world, it's like you you are it, not separate.

SPEAKER_02:

I agree with that so much. I'm so glad that you said that. And I love that that was your intention behind wanting to offer this, because you're right. Like, we do need to come into our power and create new structures and create a new world that we want to see. And I think you're so right. Like, we so many people are outside of themselves, you know, being like, Oh my gosh, this needs to change in order for me to be this and this person, but it's giving all this power to all of these other things and people when like you yourself have the power and yourself and your communities. And I think that people forget or kind of glaze over the fact that when you're good and you're aligned and you're doing your own good with yourself, that that then helps the collective. But if you're not good and you're in like a shit place and you know, being like, oh, everything sucks and the world's horrible, and you're just like scrolling and you're just like in this horrible place. Like, that's not, I understand how easy that is to get there, but it's really not doing any good to anything, you know. It's like the whole compassion and empathy thing that you talk about, you know, where you're like, oh, I just have so much empathy for everything and it's not really helping.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, it's important to be able to to see that the state of the world and to acknowledge it, right? A lot of times her spirituality can be spiritual bypassing, right? And we're just like, oh, the love and the light, and we're just like in that space. And it's like, no, there is there is a lot of suffering in the world, there is a lot of a struggle, there is a lot of ignorance, and in the spiritual traditions, we understand that ignorance is not not knowing. Ignorance is I don't know, but I convince myself that I do. And so it's dangerous, it's very dangerous when we act from our ignorance, right? Or when we act from our reactivity, when we act from our own wounds, there are hell in our womb, right? When we act from our own pain, when we act from our own revenge, from our own despair, when when we're that is taking over, and most of the time it's unconscious. We don't even know that we're actually in reactive mode. That is never gonna move us forward, right? And and sometimes it's it's it's hard to hear it. But here in America, there is a fight against drugs for so many years. Uh, is this war going to ever be win? I'm sorry to tell you, but I I don't think so. Because it's not right, whatever your focus goes, your intention goes, the energy flows, and that grows. That's just it's the law of nature, right? It's the law of nature. And so if if all of our efforts are going into the fight, then there is no energy going into the solution, into actually seeing the core of the problem, right? And so a lot of the times for us individually that affects the collective, we're not really getting into the core of what am I being called to do this or to do that, right? If this is my trauma acting up, is this I am acting out of just all despair and frustration and rage? Or am I coming from love? Am I coming from love? And that's a question that each and every one of us should, you know, should be seating with. And so this experiences of feeling the womb begin right there and be very, very humble and honest with oneself. This is not about me as a teacher, got a great experience, and you're telling me it's about you. Like, do you have the true bravery and courage to sit with yourself and see where are you and where are you coming from to make these decisions and to take these actions?

SPEAKER_02:

And that's really hard.

SPEAKER_05:

It is really challenging. And and it also brings us into the space that we are not meant to do it by ourselves, right? All these wisdom traditions, yes, we have we have practices, meaning we have actions we do for ourselves every single day. But the importance of Sangha talking in, you know, in the in the Himalayas, and then right, like just this communal way of living in the Andes, like it's it's it's all wisdom traditions have always said, like, we are tribal beings, we need one another, we need to hold each other. Even if it is like uh, because sometimes people say, like, oh yes, I'm a meditator, I've been meditating for 20 years and for 30 years. That's wonderful, and it's amazing that you're doing that. But the moment that you, you as a meditator and continue to meditate on your own, and you come into a circle and we meditate together, the portals open to go to a place to have an experience that you've never had before, right? Like this is because the collective energy invite creates a different experience. And so it's actually wonderful, but it's actually needed beyond, like, oh, I like it. When people tell me, like, but you meditate every day, like, why do you, you know, you want to create meditation circles, or you go and you always belong with because we're experiential beings, and until we don't experience for ourselves, it's more challenging for us to create that path. When we are collectively coming together with a high intention, then the experiences get more profound. And because we experience it, now we can go on our own. Yeah. I tap into the collective and then I can go on our own. So when we come together with the intention of healing, right? In this case, are we talking about the womb? We we're coming together specifically for that. There is a ripple effect that happens. And there is also that environment that can be created of safety, right? Like that's the most important thing. Because here we're talking about traumas are our own and ancestral and lineage, and we're talking about all that we don't want to face, right? All that we have been avoiding and all that we have been tiptoeing around. And so, with me, like the first time that I was invited to hold the space, it came with a big responsibility. But at the same time, until when do we tip top around our traumas? Until when are we continue to live as you know, traumatic beings? And we label ourselves as the addict, as the, you know, like just the, oh yeah, BTSC, that's who I am, or you know, like this is what who I am. And that's wonderful to identify it. It's great to begin the process, but there the invitation of the light, the invitation of the wisdom traditions, the invitation truly is to transcend it, to go beyond it. You're not here to suffer, you're here to co-create a fulfilled life. We are here to experience joy. And until we don't dare, and I started to feel this with my work in grief, and as an end-of-life doula and grief doula, this invitation for myself, like for years and years and years, I realized I wasn't able to experience joy because I didn't allow myself to experience grief and to experience, like to really be into that space. And so it's real for me, right? And the space that until we're not willing to feel it all, then we're not able to live fully. Because we can only, we don't only numb what we don't like. We numb ourselves from all of it, right? And so there is this invitation to come in, connecting together in a safe environment. And I'm gonna say it again. It needs a safe environment and it needs somebody that is really grounded and rooted in a space that said, yes, I have the capacity to hold, right, at all levels, like physical, emotional, energetic. And that's why actually the reality of all the sacred rituals and ceremonies have that intention of like hold us because we don't know at which moment, you know, that is gonna come up. And the triggers have been, you know, it's I feel like that word trigger has been diluted to like there's something to avoid, and like, you know, you're triggering me, and so this is wrong, and there's something wrong. And in in in the wisdom traditions, we understand that the trigger is our soul saying, Hey, honey, you're ready. The time has come. The time has come, right? Let's reach out for that support that it's always here. Let's go. Like the the time is now.

SPEAKER_02:

Love that. Would you say that women who have given birth or that have had maybe traumatic births or maybe physical injury to their womb, do they sometimes experience a loss of power or a loss of being able to create because of that? How does that affect them?

SPEAKER_05:

Definitely. So that comes in the realms of the trauma. And so it can be physical trauma, yeah, or emotional trauma or energetic trauma, or all at the same time.

SPEAKER_02:

Is there also really quick? Is there also a link between like if you were somebody that had, let's say, a hysterectomy or endometriosis or PCOS or any type of physical things, does that link go with like creating and your power to create and your power to manifest? Um do you think that that has anything to do with each other, like a physical reaction of one another, or how does that sort of work, or is it just all trauma and then that's well, there is a difference between when the body is following this energetic that is coming in, right?

SPEAKER_05:

Like we know that all these ease and the body uh begins at the energetic level. And so a lot of times there is that response of the body, creating something out of that energy that we are holding for a long period of time. So if we are in the space of really not believing that we are creators, that we cannot create, or we are afraid of what can be, right, for a long period of time that can, right? Because energy doesn't get destroyed, only transform, it can transform into a cyst, it can transform into indiometrosis, it can transform, you know, because it starts there. So it's a lot of the um unconscious, limited beliefs and conditioning that we are carrying in this lifetime and in many, many more can translate in physical disease. So that is one part that is very, very important to be able to attune to the energetic womb, honoring the fact that we are this energy is embodied in this physicality. And so we honor the physicality and we understand that what has manifested in this physicality is actually a clue, it's actually guiding us to see, oh, what's the deeper healing that needs to be presented? What is really my body is speaking, right? Because it speaks in sensation, it speaks in manifestation, like the body is manifesting all the time. And when we can really see, oh, what is here, we can begin to shift our idea of like this is wrong, or my body is against me, or it and to open it and said, oh, uh a different understanding and a different way to communicate with the body, knowing that it's guiding us, guiding us towards towards healing and that space. So yeah, we work with the physicality as we can hold it and tend to it, but we're talking more, let's go to the core. So let's go to the energetic womb. So even if you don't have, you know, you can have a complete hysterectomy and we can sit down and do womb healing, because you always have it. Sometimes uh women also ask me, is this only for women that are in their bleeding period? It's like, no, it's for all of us, right? Like, because it what we want is to attune to is cycles too. And it's not because it's only when we're bleeding, because like I said at the beginning, this also can be about men. This is our attunement and our understanding that it goes beyond us, that because there it holds the element of water, the moon, which is the one that governs the cycles, moves the waters on earth, so moves our own waters, right? And so it's attuning to the cycle that is just beyond, so includes our physicality, but we go beyond our physicality because we're not just this body, we are energy, but well, we have it, and it's a gift and and and it holds so much wisdom.

SPEAKER_02:

Love that. That makes a lot of sense for sure. Yeah, because I could definitely see people really thinking womb equals something's wrong with my physical body, or you know, the trauma that I've had and things like that. But when did you start getting into like when did you feel called to start working with the womb and creation and things like that?

SPEAKER_05:

15 years ago. Yeah. Uh because I I was experiencing very, very painful periods. It was a lot going on. I hadn't dealing trophies, and and it's just I was a new man, I started to meditate, so started to do it's really the the yoga practice as we know it here in the West, like doing uh a lot of asana and move movement of energy. I started to practice kriya, and so I started to become more and more aware that I was so disconnected with the feminine energy, and I was so disconnected with my power to create, and that has been translated in it. And so it it started a journey of really healing. At the beginning, there was a lot of reaction, right? Because I was like, I only need to work with women and no man, and like even in that reaction, I'm like, this is wrong, and this is, I remember like I felt called to go to the jungles of uh of Peru, of my homeland, and this beautiful being that I reached out to connect me with a medicine woman there. My first line in the message was like, I really need to connect and heal my feminine energy, and I guess I don't know, womb, but like, you know, all the shamans and medicine people in Peru right now are like men, so I don't want that.

SPEAKER_06:

And I was in such a reaction, and she's like, how beautiful! You know, I have a medicine woman, here is her phone number, you know, and yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

So it just like it started this healing, but it was so eye-opening for me that I I went to the jungle of Peru and it was all about the womb. When we talk about the feminine, I was like, like, no, it's my feminine energy. Like they were like, looking at me, we're and it's like, okay. And so we did a lot of vaginal esteeming and uh, you know, as a ritual, as a ceremony, as you know, like just the connection with the womb, the beginning to like understand, oh, I can talk to it. Okay, what what is happening? The sacredness of the blood, what did that really mean? You know, like not dirty at it, like just a beginning to understand that, and then you know, being in Bali and looking for the feminine healing, and it was very similar practices, right? And being in India and very similar practices, and like then understanding, oh my God, in Korea they do the same thing, and then in China the same thing. Like there is this knowledge that especially has been carrying about through women, the importance of it, because we identify with our womb because we actually have physical womb in us. So there's like this this connection, but it has been a beautiful journey and and one that I return again and again, right? Because when we are like, oh yeah, I'm totally healed, right? We we we come back into this egotistic idea that there is this perfect place, right? Like that we arriving in heaven, like and everything is gray, and like rainbows and butterflies. And it's like, no, it's as we started saying, we are the universe, so it's always evolving, always creating, always, and there's always something can be revealed. And some people tell me, like, oh, how exhausting when we stop seeing ourselves as broken, and we're actually begin to be excited about oh my God, what capacity am I gonna embody now? What am I going to create now? There is excitement within ourselves. Like we see our healing as part of this, our uh evolutionary journey. We become yeah, excited and joyful about like just doing this work because we know that in the end, joy, joy is the reward.

SPEAKER_02:

So then what does it mean to quote unquote heal your feminine energy then?

SPEAKER_05:

It really just means that we become aware that the energy expresses in both masculine and feminine, the sun and the moon, the yin and the yan, the intellect and the intuitive. We are like we have hemispheres of the brain, right? And it feels in the earth plane that they're separate, but they're actually one. When we realize that we have been conditioned to follow one, right? Especially in our culture, that like the intellect, it's you know, like revere and that that intelligence is the only intelligence, and that's the one we need to follow. And that the way that came easier to us, and we were rewarded for that, we start to put all of our energy there, right? What our energy goes, intention goes, that energy flows and that grows. So then for me in that moment, that meant that I was only using my intellect. I was only, and I was completely then actually realizing that I was never in my masculine.

SPEAKER_06:

I was actually completely out of balance. And it's not such a thing of like, oh yeah, I'm so balanced in my masculine that my feminine is out of balance, or I'm so balanced in my feminine, like again, like the chakras, not separate, right?

SPEAKER_05:

I was just out of balance completely. I was just in an ignorant space of thinking that I knew, but I actually didn't know, right? I needed to come into harmony with my own nature and remember, oh, that is nature. And and then there are tools, and there is this wisdom that is being held and wisdom keepers that can bring us back into the space, the tools that we can use to come into balance, right? To reharmonize ourselves. So really that's what it truly means.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're telling me that if I do a bunch of Yoni Steams and we get in touch with my quote unquote feminine, I'm not gonna turn into this sexy feminine perfect angel. Sometimes that's kind of people are like, I'm in my feminine, and they're like floating around in their skirts and just you know, so soft and you know, all that sort of stuff. But I feel like that's again just mumbo jumbo sometimes.

SPEAKER_06:

We need both, right? Because if we're just in that space, that means that we're completely out of balance because we cannot make it in time anywhere, right? And we have we have lunar time. You had to make the appointment. I needed to be here with you at 9 a.m. to record this. Like it's not like you know, like again, masculine, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

The bangs for the river, right? Like we yeah, it is needed, and it is needed both in balance. So we need to come into that balance of ourselves, and only we know, only we know, right? We have a tendency, obviously. We have a tendency, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Like if your your fire is more in play, like you're you're gonna have a tendency to be type A. Yeah. Right. And like just like go, go, go, go, go, and do it. Cause like that's that's what it is. You're more like at the flow and wear like the dresses all the time and never follow the time.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, just okay, that's your tendency. But actually, it's important to realize what are my tendencies, so then I can see, oh, uh, that's probably right. What I want to do all the time, and then I tend to do that, and then I'm gonna just grow that and then I'm gonna be even more out of balance. So that's why when we talk about spiritual practice, is that what rocks your world?

SPEAKER_06:

That which is not easy. That's what it's like you don't want to do.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_06:

Right? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time I share medicine, like especially cacao, because it's more accessible now. Like, I you know, I tell people, this is medicine, stop expecting the really sweet coca cup. Like it's it's it is not, and it's not meant to be it. It's meant to like and waken you up, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, yes, it's such a good point. Yeah, you did mention talking to your womb and having a conversation with your womb and sort of doing that. What does that look like? And what does that mean? And why would you do that? And what's the deal?

SPEAKER_05:

What's coming up for me to share is because their bodies are alive, because we don't we are not our thoughts separate from the body, and the body has its own intelligence, and and it's so important to be able to connect with it, right? Like in your own way, also, because a lot of times our imbalance masculine say like, tell me exactly how to say it, and where do I put my hands and how do I do it, you know? And part of coming into balance is to be in the flow of not being afraid of this very body that we have been given. And so we talk a lot in this Western world about oh, my gut feelings, that's your womb. Yeah, that's your womb. And so, how do you connect and you follow like your gut, you follow your truth, you follow what we in the wisdom traditions we call it actually the first brain, right? Like just the second brain is the heart, actually, only the third one or physical brain. But how do we connect with this wisdom in that is embedded in us, but and also that is connected to this creative intelligence of the universe is through the body, it's through the body that happens. And a lot of times it's like, oh, I just want to transcend it and go be like we're here in this body. So why don't we just begin by putting our hands in our body without making it, you know, we are and only sexual and only it's like let's come back to the sensuality, let's reclaim sensuality, meaning that we understand that we are sensual beings, that we sense. And when we begin to connect more and more into our senses, then we're gonna be able to unlock that wisdom, that guidance that comes through the body always.

SPEAKER_03:

Right?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, always. I don't know anybody that lives guided, that um is really in alignment with their purpose, uh, you know, like Dharma that that really knows for themselves, they're very center in themselves, they're not connected to their body. It just starts there.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

It begins and starts there. So that's the reason why, because I really want it to guide me. I really wanted to be able to be compassionate to my own self and understand instead of creating an idea, right, and a story that usually when there is pain in the body and when there is discomfort in the body, our human tendency is to go into fear and trying to figure out and panic. And so it's so important to pull us back from that tendency, from those stories, and and then be curious what's really underneath here? What are you really trying to tell me to guide me in? And again, don't believe me. Try it for yourself, right? Hands on your heart, hands on your womb, hands on your belt, hands somewhere where where you feel, because the language of the body is sensation. So where do you feel? And and in this culture we're living in, that's a radical act. To feel again is a radical act. But it is it is the beginning of of creating a new way of living. When we come into we feel again and we let ourselves be guided by our own nature, right? So in connection with nature. So so very important.

SPEAKER_02:

Is there anything else that you feel that wasn't said or that you wanted to say in regards to womb awakening and you know, your upcoming workshops or your intention or anything of that nature?

SPEAKER_05:

As you can tell, I can talk about womb healing forever. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm like, I can keep going to that.

SPEAKER_05:

Right? But because the balance masculine, we need to follow the time. So yeah, yes, uh, and we honor that. What I would say is that it is important now more than ever, right? That that that we that we begin to connect with our body, we connect to to connect with with uh Uh, our gut feelings, that we acknowledge that there is a lot of trauma within ourselves and fear within ourselves, that a lot of times is running the show, running our relationships, running our our choices, running, you know, like just everything in our lives. Now, more than ever, it's important that we we shift from just being busy and saying that we're busy in like a batch of honor, like I'm just busy, I'm just busy, I'm just busy. You're just disconnected and you're missing your life. And we need you. We need you. We need you to to really be brave enough to to heal what you're called to heal in this moment, right? Because not all of it comes out all of the same, like it's in this moment, in this moment, right? We need you clear, we need you grounded, we need you balanced and in harmony, so then we can all, we can all birth a new humanity. Yeah. So I'm being called, so I'm sharing this um in small, small groups, the small gatherings of this womb healing, because it is always have been. But if you're not close to us, you know, just the healers were out there, and um we are all connected through that tapestry of of our wounds, and we know that this is the time. So very important to look for somebody that is embodying those teachings, they're living those teachings that have the capacity to hold you, not because it's a trend, not because it will sell, not because it's something that sounds great, right? Like just really let your begin your womb healing following your gut feeling about who can hold the space for you. Love that, right? Begin there, like connect to it, ask like who is it? That's why there is infinite creation. It's like infinite teachers, right? Like, there's that one better than the other one. Which one is in alignment? Which one can hold um what you're ready to release and let go? Which one can create that safe environment, sacred, holy space that is guarded and protected for you to be able to heal and then follow that, follow that, like radically trusted because we need you again and again. We need you, you are needed.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, thank you, Gaia.

SPEAKER_05:

Thank you so much, Lauren. This is such a joy every time. Right. I feel so honored, and I feel so honored to come and serve and support your community and connect your community with this womb healing coming up and your beautiful space. I cannot cannot wait. I feel very honored.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you. We're excited too. And any listeners that are wondering more about you and want to connect with you, want maybe want a one-on-one channeling session or want to see where you're teaching or things like that, where could they find you?

SPEAKER_05:

Socials, Instagram, Gaia Balbi. At Gaia Balbi. That's like uh the first one. And then my website, Gaia Balbi.com. So it's my name, my last name.com. Yes. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. Well, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_06:

Thank you. Blessings. Happy Dwali. Bye.