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Know Ya Flow
Flow States: Reconnecting with Your Cycle Through Rituals w/Menstrual Cycle Coach Georgia Kevin
Georgia shares her journey from being disconnected from her body to becoming a menstrual cycle coach and reclaiming her cycle after years of suppressing it with hormonal birth control.
• Finding body literacy through cycle tracking after struggling with cycle irregularity
• How connecting to your menstrual cycle serves as an anchor for overall wellbeing
• Understanding the four "inner seasons" of your cycle (menstrual, follicular, ovulation, luteal)
• Practical rituals for each phase that help maintain balance and honor your body's needs
• Using "circuit breaker" practices to interrupt stress patterns during challenging phases
• The transformative power of embracing rather than resisting your premenstrual phase
• How to track your cycle using moon phases when not experiencing a physical bleed
• Creating a personalized approach to cyclical living that evolves throughout your lifetime
You can find Georgia on Instagram @shaktiseeker_ or visit her website ShaktiSeeker.com for one-on-one coaching and free resources to begin your own cycle wisdom journey.
Welcome to Know your Flow podcast, where women in flow share what they know. I'm your host, lauren Barton. Join me as we talk to women and hear their stories on what they know, how they've grown and living in flow All right. So today we're here with Georgia. Hi, georgia, hello, hello, how are you Good? Thank you for joining us today to talk a little bit about menstrual cycle coaching, menstrual cycle, all the things and some rituals as well. So excited to have you. It's awesome to be here. So Georgia and I connected through cyclical school, following each other. I see your stuff through that she is in. Where are you located?
Speaker 2:I'm in Australia, on the central coast in New South Wales, so the East coast Cool, awesome, and so you love.
Speaker 1:Ooh love that. So you did cyclical school. You did level one, level two and the fertility course as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't do level two, I've just done, level one no, everyone thinks I did, but no, I didn't. I signed up to do it this year, but it's not happening. So next year I'll be doing that as well.
Speaker 1:Cool, yeah, awesome, not to rub it in.
Speaker 2:I know serious jealousy, but that's okay. It just wasn't the right timing. We were traveling and couldn't do it, so but we're home now yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that. So what got you interested in all of that in general? So why did you sign up for, like? Why were you interested in learning more about the menstrual cycle and about were you interested in coaching? Or did you just want to know for your own personal study?
Speaker 2:So I started learning about the cycle. So I'm 30 now and when I was 24, I started learning about my cycle, I came off the pill and was like I had no interest before then about learning about it, like it was just something I muted. I traveled a lot so I was get it gone Like it's one inconvenient thing, and so for years I just muted it on hormonal birth control. And then we got to a point and I'm a teacher as well, so I teach primary school and I was just feeling like so disconnected from my body, my mind, I was overwhelmed. I was just in that go, go, go, go go. Every school holidays I'd book a trip overseas. I loved it, I love this busy life.
Speaker 2:But then there came a point where I was just like I'm just so up here and I've got no idea what's going on in my body. So that's when I started to read about it. So this is all when I feel like there wasn't anywhere near as many resources back then as what there is now in terms of books and podcasts. But a girlfriend gave me a book and I was like, oh, this is so cool, I love it. And then from there I just started learning about my cycle. I started really tapping into more that masculine and feminine energy just to see exactly what was going on. Obviously, it's taken me years to get the knowledge I've got today, but I really just wanted to learn about the cycle and what exactly goes on. So that's where I am today and that's how I've got here.
Speaker 2:And then it was through a friend that told me about cyclical school. It's a tongue twister sometimes. And then, yeah, I was like sweet, I'm going to sign up. At that point I decided that I wanted to step back from my full-time teaching role anyway. So I was like let's sign up, let's do it. I had no intention of coaching from it. I was like cool, like that comes with it Bonus, and now fast forward. Now that's my passion, that's what I do, I coach and I run online courses and things like that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's fully evolved, I suppose. So that's yeah, yeah. So what was the first thing that you were excited about learning when you learned the menstrual cycle and like learning more about it? What was the first thing that you were like Whoa, no way, I had no idea. Like that's so cool. Tell me more.
Speaker 2:I had no idea about ovulation. I actually had no idea what ovulation was. Crazy.
Speaker 2:I just assumed that my app just told me when I was ovulating and I was like, oh, there you go. I had no idea that cervical mucus was a biomarker of fertility. No idea I had so many things that I just so that was probably the biggest. Oh my gosh, what is going on? And to get rewind back to my story a little bit, when I came off the pill, it took a long time to get my bleed, so it took a long time to get back into that routine of actually getting a cycle. So that was quite stressful as well, because I was like what's going on? Why haven't I got it?
Speaker 2:And yeah, I found that a long, challenging process and I was working with gynecologists and they're just like go get this test done or go get this test done. And there was no answers. So that's why I went on the journey to seek them myself and learn about it, rather than just be told oh, you've got PCOS, or just go and get that x-ray done, or just do this, or it'll come back. So and what was funny is it finally came back at the end of the year. So let's just say that was in March. I stopped the pill and right at the end of the year, when I finished my last day of teaching, my bleed came back and it was almost as if I'd relaxed and I'd taken the time to drop back into my body. So that's the biggest takeaway from that and learning from that about stress and how everything impacts your cycle, not just your period and your bleed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's so cool. You said that when you finally started to really like learn about it and let go, then your body relaxed as well and came along with it, because during that time was there anything that was helpful when you were going to the doctors or anything like that. Did anything come up, or was it literally just a thing of?
Speaker 2:it's going to take a second babe. No, like they just were like go get a test, go get a scan. It was just when I say they, I'm just talking about the doctors and all that we're speculating just PCOS. And I never actually followed that journey because I was no, I'm going to find out for myself. I just I felt like I was just a number and I was spending a lot of money as well going to these gynecologists and I was just getting nowhere. So that's where I took matters into my own hands and never, never followed up on that.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I do think so. We go to the doctor and we want them to tell us okay, there's X, y and Z wrong with you, or this is a reason because of this test we see this, blah, blah, blah, blah blah, and this is why you know this is happening. But in my experience and I'm sure that you probably feel the same I would assume there's a large energetic part of it that doesn't really make sense, because I do think that you know the menstrual cycle is the feminine and so sometimes things are not going to be black and white. And so, yeah, can you speak to that a little bit and how that shows up Sometimes? There's not this black and white answer, and would you agree with that? And how do you see that show up in your cycle of the bleed coming after a trip, or your bleed coming whenever you finally finish something, or the spiritual practice of menstruation, of letting go of your shit and then, you know, rebuilding?
Speaker 2:yeah, totally that's a big question.
Speaker 1:So I know it's a lot.
Speaker 2:You can riff on this the whole day, yeah, yeah, okay. So fast forward back to black and white. And so, before connecting to my cycle, I considered myself quite a spiritual person anyway, but I didn't realize how disconnected to my body I was. So, yes, I had all these practices in place and I was really enjoying everything I did, but it kind of stopped from my head down. There was no association of how I can connect my cycle and bring in these practices and live cyclically through my menstrual cycle really. So, in terms of like black and white, yes, the doctors I found it was just I want to tick a box. It was like ticking a box, yes, you've got this, no, you don't have this, you're broken pretty much Like it was. Just there was no answers, there was no clear answers, and so that's where I yes, I had to start thinking more about okay, so what is actually going on in my body? How is this bloating? And that's where cycle tracking came into it. So for years, all I ever used was an online app and it just all I logged was my period, that's it. And I'd use that to be like, okay, when's my next period? And that's that was pretty much it. And it, of course, told me ovulation, but looking back on it was completely wrong, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, since tracking my cycle and actually being able to track a lot of the challenges that was going on, like the bloating, like the back pain, like the headaches everything I was just assuming was normal at the time Then I was able to then, on my own, draw these conclusions and I went and worked with like a naturopath and so me, having the data, created that body literacy and took away that fear of I'm broken or something's not right, and it put me in control if that kind of makes sense, rather than me just being, oh, like something's wrong, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2:Just tell me what's wrong. So I became the one in control and therefore yet took that and like I get goosebumps now because it's so powerful and that's what I teach to my clients through tracking is that you then take that driver's seat and that everything yet kind of shows up for a reason. So if you are getting, if you've got so much stress in your life, then it will potentially show up through not ovulating and things like that. So if that answers your question a little bit, I've gone.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, no, totally Cause I think the biggest thing with cycle tracking and with tuning in and with checking in with self is that if you get more self-trust and then you realize that the answers are actually within you and not outside of you, and then that rebuilds your trust itself, that rebuilds your love of self, that rebuilds your relationship with your body and then that trickles out, I feel like, into many avenues in your life.
Speaker 2:Goodness, yeah, like I totally. And I was that person that was at the gym morning and night that was so restrictive of what I was eating, like I was so healthy in a textbook, but then what was going on on the inside was so not my habits, and just that constant go go go, putting my body under so many stresses that at the time I didn't think were stresses. So, yeah, it's so right about that.
Speaker 1:So once you started tuning in and getting your cycle back, how did that feel? Did you start tuning into the phases of your cycle and the slowing down and did you feel like, energetically, you were tuning into more of the feminine by slowing down?
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. So really I did it phase by phase. I didn't just go, oh my gosh, there's four, I'm going to change everything. I focused really just on the menstrual phase for I'd say like a year or two, because that's where I knew I needed to have the most amount of just consistency for myself. So, yeah, I focused purely on the menstrual and kind of like the premenstrual as well, like bringing in more of that grounding energy, because I'd found that I was very heightened and so it was just about that.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I really focused on my bleed and just incorporating more of that warmth and more of that slowing down and, like you just said, as in turn of that, I was able to connect more to that feminine energy and tap away from that needing to be busy and needing to be doing something. All the time that I was just brought up thinking that was normal. It's like, oh, you're productive, which means you're successful, type thing. So yeah, it was breaking all that. So it's so much more than just connecting to your cycle. It's like looking at everything else.
Speaker 1:Why do you think that we resist slowing down and resting?
Speaker 2:Because we feel that we're failing to an extent and everyone's childhood is different, but growing up we were always busy, seriously always doing something. I've got three brothers, so weekends were just sport here, sport there, seriously, always doing something. I've got three brothers, so weekends were just sport here, sport there, doing this, doing that. There wasn't that encouraged slow family time. There wasn't the cozy movie nights almost it was dad was working or mum was working. So it's not as if my childhood by any means was terrible, like wonderful, but I just was so used to just being on the go constantly, like making plans or catching up or someone's friends coming over or this and that.
Speaker 2:So I suppose we are so in that motion of always doing something, purely because sometimes we can't sit still and we can't slow down because it's hard to do that. So it can be so hard, we get that guilt and it's even like taking a day off when you feel sick. You get guilty and it's, but I be so hard. We get that guilt and it's even like taking a day off when you feel sick. You get guilty and it's, but I'm so sick, my body needs that, and I suppose that guilt is wiped away when you are connected because you are able to see now this is what my body needs and then realize, okay, if I do this now, next week I'm going to have all this energy and that's where the cycle comes into it as well. And when you rest during your menstrual phase and rest is so different for everyone but when you bring that in, it just then expands to your whole cycle and brings that feeling of balance throughout. So it's a little example.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. What came up when you started to slow down? Did any negative feelings? Was it really hard for you to actually? And what did rest look like for you during your menstrual phase or premenstrual?
Speaker 2:So rest for me was no gym, it was just cutting back. So I was that girl that was there every single day, religiously, loved it, absolutely frost on a type thing. So for me it was no gym, it was just walking and slowing down. And then so it was hard because I also had this mindset of, okay, if I'm not going to the gym, I need to be really watching what I'm eating, that this think about that, that connection so that was the biggest challenge for me was okay, fully slowing down, actually listening and not having to feel guilty and that I still need to eat and I still need to do all these things. So, if you're kind of following what I'm saying, that was definitely the biggest challenge for me and has taken years to be able to find that balance. And, yeah, just accept that rest is powerful.
Speaker 1:Because, I assume, did your mind sort of want to take over and tell you hey, you're lazy, hey, you're going to gain weight. If, when you go back to the gym, it's going to be really hard, what are you doing? This doesn't really matter. I imagine that the mind really started to take over and chatter and try to take the wheel.
Speaker 2:Definitely definitely. And the gym for me was also a social, it was a massive social circle for me. So going there it was more difficult because I'd have my girlfriends in the group chat being like who's going? So I had all these other things that you're so right. The mind wanted to just go and I'm like no, I'm not going, I'm honoring myself and yeah, and that's where it did take a while, but I don't know it. Just you get a flick of the switch and then you're like, no, this is so nice.
Speaker 1:And then when you start not to get sick and you start not to have those challenges and you can see it after a few cycles and you're like, yep, no, this is, this is so important for myself, so it's not about everyone else, it's about me. Yeah, did you feel a bit of pushback when you started to embrace your cycle from friends, family, society, like people around you, a little bit like oh, that's weird, or more interest, do you think?
Speaker 2:More interest, definitely more interest, and I've always been someone that has always been into more of that different type of thinking, I suppose. So, no, there wasn't a lot of pushback, there was a lot of queries. But yeah, that's about it and living. I lived in a share house at the time and one of my housemates was a Chinese acupuncturist like TCM. So it's funny she for years she's like you're a teacher, you need to be doing this, you need to be doing this. And I was like, nah, I don't want to hear a bar of it, stop telling. Me're ready to actively embody it and see that change.
Speaker 1:What other stuff are you into that? It's like hippy dippy.
Speaker 2:Bigger tarot and intuitive thinking. And I'm just looking at my altar which is like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you've always been in. What's your zodiac Like? What's your sign, your sun sign? I'm Cap, just Cap, oh. Always been in place. What's your um zodiacs like? What's your sign, your sun sign? I'm cap, just cap, oh, oh, what's your right?
Speaker 2:I don't know, okay, so not really on astrology I'm not into astrology.
Speaker 1:Years ago I was, and then I just I'm not now yeah, but you've always liked what nature, traveling nature, a little bit different health stuff. In general have you always been to yeah, I've.
Speaker 2:I've studied a lot of ayurveda, so I follow okay, cool yeah, very, very closely. Yeah, I mean, I'm a abhyanga massage therapist so I do that as well. So, yeah, very ayurvedic in terms of, like, my thinking and my acting and my living. So that's, yeah, quite a basis of a lot of things I do which connects to the cycle as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really does, especially, yeah, with the seasons and bringing in the elements of each season and what we're missing, and then you can kind of incorporate that, yeah, with the menstrual cycle. It's like another layer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally, totally. And the Abhyanga during that luteal phase is just life-changing. Giving yourself a warm, nourishing massage is just so beautiful. So, and to be able to give that to women and create that space for them is gorgeous.
Speaker 1:So that's so cool. When did you get certified in that?
Speaker 2:I did that two years ago when I was traveling. So we traveled Australia for a year in our van and there'd been this clinic I'd followed for years on Instagram and then it popped up like a five-day training course and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do that. So I went up to Perth and did that. So that would have been 20. It was the same year 2022, I think the same year that we um started our course. So, yeah, I'm big on that. I'm big on like, okay, I want to add this modality and even if I don't use them all at the one time, it just yeah, they all just add to each other.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, Could you explain to the listeners what Abhyanga is? Because it's so funny that you say that, because at one point I was curating, I was going to do this and I may still do it, probably will but like a cyclical essentials, like a thing that you could buy that would have yoga for your cycle, different meditations, yoga, nidra, things like that, and one of them is going to be like explaining Abhyanga, because I think that if you have not massaged yourself in that way, you should.
Speaker 2:Especially, what a beautiful way to connect to your body and to your womb space, and so, yeah, so Abhyanga uses warm, usually sesame oil, organic sesame oil, not the supermarket sesame oil, because you will smell like a deep fryer and the whole point of it is we want to have long strokes. So we want to do long strokes and what we're doing is, yeah, we're activating that lymphatic system, we are drawing out toxins from our body, we are getting rid of the anxiety by flicking everything out. So they're long, firm strokes. It's not like a typical massage where you're going around the joints. We're really exiting all of those toxins from the body and in turn we are using that warm, nourishing oil. So it's kind of a double whammy you are nourishing the insides and the oil it seeps through as well, and I love to leave it on for a little bit, like I absolutely love it, and it's full body. So you start from the. What's that called?
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness I'm losing my words your crown and your feet, and then you then go to each body part and the thing I love about it is you're really connecting to each body part with intention. So that's when you can bring in whatever it is that you're working on and you can connect to those body parts, and it can go for as long or as little as you want. Some nights I'll just do my feet and I'll get into bed with some socks on, and that's so grounding. Other times I'll do my whole body or I'll just do my legs, and it is a full. It's a full practice. It's it's beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Highly recommend.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And if you don't need any fancy equipment, all you need is an old towel, because the oil seeps and I just heat my jar up in a mug of boiling water and I just sit my jug in there, my jar, and just with a dropper. That's another thing. Use a dropper so that you're not contaminating all your oil, and then you can just drop it on your body and just do the long strokes yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 1:That's all right, little side note yeah, yeah, I don't overly share it, so, yeah, but I love it, absolutely love it yeah, I mean, it really is such a beautiful practice and just another way to love yourself more and to give yourself love and to, because I think that's so important and and I know that we all all over Instagram, all over this, that and the other there's the whole self-love, love yourself, whatever and I think that it can get very, you know, oh yeah, cool. Whatever, I'll do that another time. That sounds lovely.
Speaker 1:Very saturated, yeah yeah. But how do we actually do that? What practices do we put into place? And I think, connecting to your menstrual cycle and using that as a compass and then incorporating these practices in every single month, being aware of yourself, being aware of your body, being aware of your feelings, and connecting to these practices and these rituals that you know we're going to get into, really allow that to happen, and it's free most of the time, and all it takes is attention and just being present with yourself and allowing it to come to you you know, totally, totally and like that's the thing is.
Speaker 2:I always say to my clients your cycle is your anchor, so you use that as a guide and you tap in each day. So even if you are feeling and we'll get to these, like you said even if you're feeling like in your inner summer, but you're still needing that slow connection time, that's when you drop back and you think, okay, how can I drop into my body today? So what, I'm in my inner summer, but it's all about that full body connection and not just being and this is where the internet can get really confusing and overwhelming, cause it's like I'm in my inner summer, I should be doing all this amazing stuff, but it's like like no, what's been going on in your life to create you to feel this little bit of overwhelm? And how can you stop, drop in and look at that now and add in a ritual to support where you're at now so that this doesn't continue for the whole cycle. It's kind of like a circuit breaker, almost. I'm really big on circuit breakers so yeah, love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a circuit breaker. So what does that mean? So a circuit breaker.
Speaker 2:For me it's different for everyone is addressing something then and there.
Speaker 2:So if something's coming up for you in your cycle what I don't like the word tools but what practices do you have that you can implement to really meet where you're at and kind of change the trajectory of where your day could be going? So for me, I always bring it back to nature, so it's always a dip in the ocean or a bushwalk or grounding myself, and what I find it helps me do is just to stop that emotion, be able to tap into it and not let it fully take over my whole day. It could be jumping in the shower washing your hair If I've had a hectic day at school. How can I break this circuit so that my whole night isn't going to be just a whirlwind of emotions and take it out on my partner? Yeah, and that comes from having that body literacy of okay, this is what's happened. I feel triggered. How can I support myself? I'm not going to ignore it, but how can I honor that, tap into that and then create that forward change?
Speaker 1:Was that a hard practice for you? Because I feel like a lot of times when that happens, we have a choice we can notice it and we can dwell in it or ignore it. I think the biggest thing is ignoring it. So, okay, yeah, like how I'm feeling, this is what's coming up, but I don't have time to deal with that right now. I'm not going to do the things. I'm so overwhelmed that I'm just not. So is it a practice for you of okay. One time you said, okay, I'm not going to ignore this, I'm going to stop right here and I'm going to go on a walk. And then you started to see okay, when I do that, I feel better, so let me keep doing.
Speaker 2:That Is that kind of how that works for you Totally A hundred percent, yep, and I always find it usually happens more in that luteal phase, so it's that premenstrual. So that is leading into rituals, how I really notice the importance of rituals, and that is what a circuit breaker can be as well, like completely different topic, but it is a way of you, if you just said, dropping into that and being able to see exactly what is going on. But it's taken time. It has taken so much time because 90% of the time, yeah, it's so much easier to just be like you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm actually just going to lay here, I'm going to order something and I'm just going to ignore my partner, whereas we can't always do that. So it takes time and no one's perfect. Like I still definitely have cycles where I'm what, what's going on, I actually don't know. And then I look at my tracker and I'm like, well, two weeks ago this happened. Maybe that's part of this process and it's sitting with it as well. Like you don't always have to act on everything that goes on, that's for sure. You can just sit and be able to add in that slowness.
Speaker 1:So so when you started to tune into your menstrual cycle and rest more and blah, blah, blah, how did that affect the rest of your cycle and your life as a whole? Was it helpful, Did it, did it work? Was it good?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, it definitely was good. So my cycle went from non-existent to pretty much being completely regular, very regular. And I do bring it back to actually having that education on my cycle, rather than just guessing, playing the guessing game oh what's this, oh, what's this. So in that time where I was waiting for my bleed to return, I was educating myself. I was having a look at okay, this is the cycle, this is. I've got no idea what it is. I had no idea there was four phases of my cycle that my hormones changed. All I knew was that women get crazy the week before their cycle. That's literally it, and I was running with that. So I was like okay, I need to shift this mindset.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I suppose notice that resting then meant I was like a completely different version of myself for the next two weeks.
Speaker 2:Instead of constantly feeling like I was just on that roller coaster, like going up, down, up, down, up down, I was able to see the bigger picture, be like okay, if I want to go away camping, maybe I could block it for that week, because I know I'll actually really love it and I'll be able to do a big hike, because I love hiking and things like that, rather than just my friends would be like, let's do this this. My weekends were just so damn bad that I think I wasn't enjoying what I was doing. Like reflecting back at the time, I don't really know, but reflecting back, I'm like, oh my gosh, yeah, no, I should not have been camping at that time, like in those cold conditions and things like that. So, yeah, yeah, it's definitely brought more balance to my life and to my relationship and just to everything I do my eating so balanced. No more of the crazy binge days and crazy workouts. It's like, nope, I'm so balanced.
Speaker 1:It really is weird to even think about not resting during your menstrual phase, like after you start doing it and after that becomes a practice. It just, like you said, a roller coaster and just like hamster wheel of just non. It's just crazy to me because, as feminine beings, as cyclical beings, to never have a time where we intentionally listen to our bodies and rest, I mean that's kind of crazy to think about it now, like after doing it for years and practicing that forever.
Speaker 1:Wow, I can't imagine how that feels. Our population is heavily doing that, you know, and like I mean what an opportunity, missed opportunity. You know.
Speaker 2:And especially because, like our jobs are so a lot of our jobs are so masculine dominated and that energy of we've got to do more, be more, but then we need these practices to slow down and embrace the feminine. And that looks so different for everyone, but it's about finding that balance, because that is how so many cycle imbalances will show up, when we're just constantly in that masculine and we're not allowing any time whether it's in your bleed or not to slow down. So how can we bring in those when we've got the busy day and all the things happening?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's a really good point. So many of our jobs are keeping us in this masculine state. So many just our lives in general are keeping us in that. So how would we have a practice? We have a built-in practice. Every single you know cycle to be able to reflect if we want to. And I think that, yeah, that's really really powerful. Love it, yeah, like yes, yes and yes. And I love what you said, too, about how, in our inner summer, we have this sort of guilt sometimes of how we should feel like, oh, I'm ovulating, so I should have all this energy, I should be feeling this type of way, and it really is like bringing it back to how you actually feel and what's like actually going on with you. And so, yeah, how has cycle tracking helped your life? How do you cycle track? What does that look like?
Speaker 2:I cycle track just on my written cycle tracker that I've made and just constantly evolved. At the moment, like I track different things for different reasons, I go through phases. So for a while I was charting for natural fertility and at the moment I'm not doing that. Right now I still chart in my mind but I'm not as rigid with, like my BBT and things like that. At the moment, for me it's all about just bringing in balance. So on my tracker I definitely track the moon. I love knowing where the moon is and where I am in my cycle, Cause that can show up as well. Quite a lot, I've noticed.
Speaker 2:I track my energy, so I track it, whether I use a word or I use a number, like out of 10. I track my libido because I like to see if there's a connection between my libido or my desire, like whatever's going on, and I track using the four pillars that we learn in cyclical school. So I check in. I check in mentally how am I feeling? I check in physically how am I feeling in my body? I check in nutritionally. So what is my body craving? Because sometimes I'm just craving all the foods and it's really important to jot that down.
Speaker 2:And then I check in like emotionally so how can I support myself during this phase?
Speaker 1:So cycle tracking that way for the listeners what is your inner season? So like, what does that mean? What are the four phases and what does that look like?
Speaker 2:So there's four inner seasons that are linked to each of the four phases. So the first phase is your menstrual, second is follicular, third is ovulation and fourth is luteal. So for each of the four phases of your cycle we relate to an inner season. So they're called inner seasons because they are the seasons that our body is going through. They're not the seasons on the outside. So that's your outer season is what's happening in the world around you. Inner seasons are exactly where your cycle is at. So when you look at your cycle, you cycle through cycle's a popular word.
Speaker 2:You transition through each of these inner seasons when you're at a certain point of the four phases. So, to link it all back, the menstrual phase is related to your inner winter. So we see that as a time of slowing down, of resting, of hibernating. It's got that real rest and nourishing vibe to it. And then we transition to the inner spring. So that's more of a bit of a blossoming coming out, bringing more light and brightness to our cycle.
Speaker 2:And from inner spring we then transition to our inner summer, which is ovulation, which is more of the peak and the high of our cycle. So, just like summer outside, the longer days, the summer kind of vibes. You've got that energy and then we transition from our inner summer to our inner autumn, which is more of that starting to slow down that inward energy, preparing for our bleed and the harvesting. So each of those four we have to go from one cycle to the next, really, and it's all about embracing exactly where we're at and when we can connect to the inner seasons. We are then able to also have that visual of where we're at and the energetic connection of okay, I'm in my winter, how can I honor that? I know it's out of summer, but how can I bring in some sort of element to really honor where I'm at in my cycle and link it to my season?
Speaker 1:Great description. Yeah, oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:You forget, like when we know it, it so well, and then someone's like in a season, what's that? So it's all about connecting to your cycle and when you can know each of the four phases and what that season is, and remember that, yeah, you have to transition. Sometimes you have to bring it on. Sometimes it's hard to get out of that inner winter, in that cocoon, but how can I slowly bring in more light and more brightness, to transition and have all of those? We need them all. We can't not have winter, like imagine nature if we didn't have winter or we didn't have spring.
Speaker 1:So yeah, exactly yeah, beautiful explanation. What do you think stops people from feeling that inner summer energy?
Speaker 2:That's when we don't have balance, I'd say when we are more of through our bleed, when we're just really not listening and slowing down and it's like go, go, go, go go. We hit that burnout, we hit that overwhelm and we're not fully able to embrace the exact cycle phase we're at. That's what I'd say it is. That's from personal experience and from clients. That's definitely where it comes from is, yeah, it's that need of constantly needing to like where I was six years ago, needing to be busy and needing to always be doing something and, as a result, there's going to be some sort of challenge and it's showing up in that phase quite often because we've taken on too much or we've not been able to say no or we've not been able to honor where we're at yeah, so then we don't have that balance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it can show up in so many different ways. It can show up through hormonal challenges. It can show up through our libido being really low. It could show up through acne, like so many different challenges. Bloating, yeah, overwhelm anxiety, they can all show up during that phase.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I feel like a lot of people associate cycle signs with the luteal phase, which is right before our bleeds, and so can you speak to a little bit about how can we ourselves, without going outward to a doctor, a physician, ob, whatever how can we ourselves bring in more balance in that phase? Because I think that, like you were saying, when you first were really diving in, that's where you were like okay, I have a feeling this one's going to be challenging, and so what can I do to sort of soften that or to make that a little bit better? Because it is interesting. I feel like once you start leaning in, I kind of start to crave it, and I used to resist it and hate it, and I feel like now I'm like, ooh, I can't wait till I get my little time that I can tell everyone, sorry, I'm being like goodbye, like I'm shutting down now, and I think that can be good. So, yeah, how has that shown up in your life? What does that look like? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:This is my experience, so, like everyone's can be completely different. But for me during that phase, I crave a little bit of routine. When there's too much like up in the air, I don't know what I'm doing, that's when my brain goes into overdrive of I need to plan next week or I need to plan that. But for me, having a little bit of a morning routine that I stick to during this phase, that just allows me to just have that hour of just me time, I have noticed the biggest improvement and for me that looks like waking up, doing my half an hour, my hour of meditation, tapping into myself, drawing my cards, and then I take the pup down to the beach and we go for a walk, go for a swim, whatever, get a coffee, get a tea, but it's my me time. Swim whatever, get a coffee, get a tea, but it's my me time.
Speaker 2:And I actually trialed by accident not doing that a few weeks ago and when I didn't do it I was just like a completely different version of me. I just felt so overwhelmed and just like I just couldn't understand what was going on, and at the time I was away and so many different things and that goes to show that, yeah, when you are away or when you are out doing something different, we still need those moments to anchor us back into ourself and yet really fuel that energy of grounding. That's what the biggest one for me is grounding. So how can I go outside? And sometimes I don't walk, sometimes I'll just sit on the front deck and, like, watch the sunrise, but yeah, it's looking at for you specifically, what is it that almost fills your cup type thing. What practice is it that you really value during this time and focusing on it, not seeing it as being I'm too tired, because this is the phase that you really need it.
Speaker 1:I love that. Yeah, so really having a morning routine, cause I definitely see with myself and clients there's more of a urge to scroll, like to doom scroll, to lay around to just feel like, oh my gosh, is there a correlation to a little side tangent? Is there a correlation to between the seasons of fall and autumn and Ayurveda and then the seasons of your luteal phase, like within you? Cause in, if I'm you know, again, side tangent, but in autumn that is the Vata season, right, so your wind is like going up, up, up, up up.
Speaker 2:So Yep, a hundred percent. You're so right on that. So yeah, vada is very air and very like. We struggle to kind of make plans and it's just so much going on but no concrete, nothing like structured or ordered. So we don't want to create too much structure that we're like, oh my gosh, this is too much.
Speaker 2:But it's you having, like exactly what you said, something to just bring that air down, bring that energy down and the wind, because the wind can be so turbulent and that's exactly what is happening, like that's such a good metaphor for it. Thanks for saying that. So yeah, it's bringing that down, calming it, which is where, like the warm oil massage is so beautiful because it calms the body.
Speaker 2:It calms so much that's going on during our cycle and like, for me it's morning, I'm a morning person, but for you or your listeners it may be nighttime or it may be that you have, like I don't get lunch breaks at work, like I'm a teacher, I have 28 kids and it's hectic. The only time for me is in the morning, so, but yeah, you could do it at lunchtime or in the afternoon. The whole intention is carving out that space for you and bringing intention to whatever it is that you're doing, not just doing it because you have to do it, like what's the point of that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly yeah. And once again, you know, when we love ourselves and take time for ourselves, we're able to show up better for other people, have better relationships. Cause I think that's the biggest thing in this phase is I can't stand my partner, everyone's annoying me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's like, well, if you bring it down and you love yourself and you take time for yourself and you honor yourself, then you can kind of get rid of that completely, but you might be able to lessen that issue a little bit more because you filled it up for yourself you know, totally, totally.
Speaker 2:And adding to that, I so agree, it can also impact the decisions you continue to make during this time. So, instead of then just being like I'm too tired to cook dinner for the next three nights, you might just prep a big pot of something that's delicious, so that, yeah, you can think forward and you can listen to your body and drop in and like that's one thing I like to do is I hate cooking sometimes during that phase, so make a big pot of something. So it's there, ready to go. One less thing to think about, one less thing to need to come home and do. And that allows me to have an extra half an hour of just sitting time with my partner, instead of like fighting over what we're having for dinner, like not that we fight but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, it's so annoying that you're like hangry and like yeah, yeah, so definitely definitely having having that moment, yeah so we've kind of talked about some rituals of like a bianca morning routine, cooking a big pot of something for yourself, like prepping, warming foods, things like that. So well, yeah, based would you like to talk about? Yeah let's do that, yeah, so other ones in the luteal phase.
Speaker 2:so we'll start with the luteal phase. Yep, okay. So this is all about grounding and wholesome and slowing down to prepare for our bleed. So what I like to do during this time is I've already said, nature, spending time in nature, because it just, it just I don't know calms us Like I can't even describe it Some frequency. Take your shoes off, go for a walk without your phone and just spend time offline.
Speaker 2:And linking back to what you said before about scrolling, this can be a time where we will fall into that trap of I need to scroll or not even I need to. It's like, oh, I'm just tired, I'm just going to scroll. And that's where we can notice that we'll be a lot more vulnerable. During this time, we'll start to compare ourselves and be like, oh, she's on a lucky holiday, like I wish I could do this. So that's another reason why we need these grounding times to not bring in that energy, because we will feed off that energy that we're getting and it's just, it's just negative most of the time, it's just wasting space and taking up, taking up our time.
Speaker 2:So during this time I've already mentioned about prepping something, but getting in and cleaning your house is a great way to just declutter, prepare for the bleed, like prepare for the shedding. I like to just make sure that my house has had a nice deep clean, because it's not something I love doing, but I find I've got energy and I need to use it, so that's what I do during this time. So yeah, deep clean of the house, do do some groceries.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to add to that, it's a really good point, like here's energy, that's still there, but the energy doesn't want to be with other people necessarily. So it's a really good time to be like okay, I'm going to clean my house, get my groceries, check some things off you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And if you've got that big pile of washing that's been sitting there for a week, put it away, because if you don't do it, you're not going to do it for another week or so, so anything like that. I also love to have a morning drink of some sort, so either some sort of cacao or a chai, something that's a little bit different. And I love to have mugs for each phase of the cycle. I love mugs, I love op shopping and I love bringing it all together. So I've got a massive collection of mugs and my autumny ones are earthy kind of colors. They're all dripped into like they're all secondhand.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, that's something I love to do as well and that's another way. If you are busy, I get it, but you could sit down and have your mug and have your drink and bring intention to your day, rather than just having your coffee and juting off and thinking or doing a doom scroll in the morning. Just have five minutes without that, five minutes with your drink, as well as being outside, cooking outside and eating outside if possible. So if you've got a barbecue or just sitting outside on your lunch break. Castor oil packs have you spoke about that before? Castor oil packs have you spoke about that before?
Speaker 2:Castor oil yeah, yeah, yeah, they're great during this time. It's just that nourishing. It's bringing that intention to your body and the connections. That's what we want to do. So castor oil pack or abhyanga massage or even any kind, just anointing your body and connecting to your body because, once again, grounding we can feel grounded when we've got that touch. So how can you bring that touch and that feeling to your body? Yeah, so a soul bath is another beautiful ritual running a bath if you have it, because I know we don't all have a bath, but baths are great, especially if you are going through a few cycle. Challenges like your body feels achy and stiff, and lower back pain. Taking 20 minutes out light a candle, have a bath, can just be nourishing for your body. So another beautiful thing to do during that phase. So they're probably the top ones that I like to do and that I work with my clients on bringing. But do you have any that you like to do during this phase Do you like to do?
Speaker 1:as well. Yeah, I love a sauna moment because I have a little home sauna, so love the sauna moment for sure. Yeah, definitely journaling, for sure I journal a little bit more. I feel like I have a lot more I love to write in general. So I feel like I have a lot of deep thoughts that like to come out and I'm like, wow, you know.
Speaker 2:But but you're not like confused by all those hormones. Yeah, that's exactly right. During this phase, they say that what's coming up for you is coming up for a reason and you've got to listen to it because it's not controlled by those crazy hormones. This is, this is pure thoughts.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I love yeah, yeah, exactly, it's like the real you, your real soul cell. Yeah, but yeah, now, all those that you just said as well. Yeah, the salt, the salt bath, castor oil packs. I love the mug one, though different mugs, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. Yeah, you'll be looking in all the op shops now for mugs, yeah, this one's like popular, I love it. Yeah, so then coming around to the menstrual phase, do you want me to just keep going around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. My favorite menstrual phase ritual is wearing red. I have a collection of red robes that I love to wear and it's just something about embracing that feminine and that flow, and I like it to be flowy, like I don't just wear anything that's red, that just I don't know, it's just it's just a powerful visual for me, for people around me, and I still feel like a goddess, because that was one of the biggest things when I started.
Speaker 2:Connecting to my cycle is like I don't want to wear like baggy track pant, like that's just me. Personally, I love wearing like flowy, floaty clothes. So when I just found these robes, I was like, yep, this is the biggest thing for me. I use a lot of reusable products. That has definitely helped me in changing my mindset around my bleed as well, because I've been able to connect to my blood on such a deeper level.
Speaker 2:It's not like using a tampon or a pad that you literally rip off and tuck in the bin. It's like, oh my gosh, I get to have a look at my blood and then, leading from that, like if you are connecting to your blood, this is when you could do a face mask or just anointing any part of your body. Sometimes I'll do my third eye, sometimes I'll just do my belly, sometimes like I'm just like, yeah, I just want to have a shower and I do it all in the shower, so it's not like messy or anything. So that's a way you can connect to your blood as well as pouring it on your garden outside. So actually acknowledging your blood and going outside and pouring it, always dilute it nine parts to one, but, yeah, actually giving it back to mother earth and seeing it bring life to something else.
Speaker 2:Because our blood is not just blood, it's stem cells, it's so many beautiful, beautiful things that when you see that, rather than just it being dirty, is powerful. Yeah, like I've got jars of blood in my fridge and it's just my partner. He doesn't care, he's like oh yeah, is this blood? Or olives, like what's going on? And I'm like.
Speaker 1:Who are you like?
Speaker 2:so yeah, and I paint with actually I've got a little painting on that. You can see behind me I paint with my blood as well, so that's another way that I can just like connect to it and sit beautiful and slow down. I use it nine parts to one, so nine parts, nine parts to one and if we are anointing our body, we really want to make sure it is that healthy flow, not the first or last day when we've got that little bit of brownie.
Speaker 1:Yeah we want to be doing it when we're at our healthy red flow.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah, I also obviously continue the ritual of drinks during this phase. So tea is so warming and nourishing. We want to bring in that warmth. We want to. Our body is already doing so much it's literally shedding our endometrium lining, so there's a whole part of us that's coming out. So we want to think about how we can bring in that warmth and nourish our bodies. So think warm drinks, any warm heat packs, anything like that.
Speaker 2:I always make sure my feet are warm during this time, so socks when I go to bed, like, obviously it depends on the weather, but we want to be making sure that, yeah, our body's not feeling that cold and that friction, because when we are, that can create more challenges and cramping and things like that. So, yeah, I love doing that during this phase. I have a candle on my altar. It's a special bleed candle that I light and it just smells divine. It's from like a local. I always buy my local from local artists or something, so they just I don't know, I love that and I love lighting that and awesome incense, anything like that.
Speaker 2:Cleansing is space. I journal during this phase, so this is my journaling phase. It's when I like to slow down and connect and I start my tracker and I pull a card for each phase of my cycle and they go on my mirror and then if I'm needing like to tap back in, I can just look at that phase and that card and kind of just ground myself through that energy as well. So I've been doing that for so long that it's just yeah, I love that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what it's about. It's about having rituals that you look forward to and that you actually want to do?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:So, like, especially my red robe, I'm like, oh, I wanted to put that on today, but I can't.
Speaker 1:I've got to wait like another two weeks.
Speaker 2:So they're things that I love to do and, of course, I still traditionally we don't give full body Ayurvedic massage during this time, but I still just we avoid the tummy Tummy's a big no-nono, but I still do it on my legs and my feet. I bring in that warmth that way because I'm very vata energy and I need that grounding. So, yeah, they're some of my favorite bleed rituals and I always have a warm soup or a dal or something that's prepared just to make life easier during this phase, and I pop it in my thermos. So, like at work, it's less conversations with people and I can just, I like just keeping to myself during this phase. Yeah, I love it and I look forward to it.
Speaker 1:I do too. It's the best excuse to be like sorry, I can't yeah, I'm very in now see you in a day or two and that the thing.
Speaker 2:And when you start doing it and communicating it to your friends, they're like oh, actually I, I want to do that, I want to have a bit of a break and I was normalizing all of this and I feel like, yeah, it's contagious. And I get like women come up to me at work and tell me stuff.
Speaker 2:They're like I just need someone to talk to and I'm like even though it couldn't be further from my career, but, yeah, absolutely love it, yeah, cool. So that's menstrual, and then we come to follicular. So follicular phase it's a time we want to bring in more of that energy and that light. So we've got to think about okay, what does that mean to me and what are the things I love doing? I've just spent a week slowing down and resting. So how can I bring in that energy and it's different for everyone, like it's so different for everyone and think about in a spring, is that blooming, that blossoming? So you are growing and blossoming and bringing in that that energy.
Speaker 2:So what can you do? So you could wear fun, playful clothes? You'll notice that this is a phase that you'll really want to start doing your hair again or getting out and being a little bit more social, so you might text a girlfriend and go out for a coffee or something like that. So I love to be in the garden during this time. For me, it's like that visual representation of okay, connecting to my inner spring. What can I do? I also love I always collect flowers on my walks as well For me having flowers in the house during this time. I've got a lot of friends that love doing that in their menstrual phase as well. So that's a universal ritual that you can do whenever suits you. But for me, my spring, I love having flowers in the house.
Speaker 2:I'm just staring at a bunch that I've picked and where I live there's so many wildflowers, so it's just an abundance that I love doing, so definitely spending time collecting flowers or in your garden is beautiful. Another thing is focusing on breath work and really activating the energy in your body. So what was stagnant I don't really like that word but what was slow, we're now bringing more of that energy too. So that could mean any sort of breath work, any sort of yoga, going back to the gym, bringing in more of that fast movement as well, to really move that energy around, because sometimes we need to push it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, no, totally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So whatever that looks like for you, just to create more, more fullness, more energy, more energy, more zest and, yeah, I said before, creative in the kitchen. But baking for someone is also awesome during this time because I love making things for people and I also do a lot of craft and art and stuff like that. So I noticed, during this phase I'm so driven want to do stuff for other people, so that's something you can do during this phase. Do you do anything else special during this phase? Like, is there anything?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was gonna add to that that, yes, we need to go inward, yes, we need to, you know, be with ourselves and blah blah. But, like you're saying, we've got to come out at some point. And we want to come out, you want to meet other people and be relational beings and things like that. So, like you said, baking for people and it's kind of in relationship with our partners. Yeah, it's kind of like, yeah, leave us alone, but promise we're going to be back, we're going to want to hang out and we have new ideas and new thoughts and all those things. So embracing that, I think.
Speaker 1:And yeah, like when I go to yoga, I'm like, okay, now is the time to go for the extra. There's a modification of a pose where you can try a different thing or, you know, add on to this pose and things like that. I definitely go for it in that. And I think, yeah, just letting yourself play. And for me, it's my ideas, like ideas that I have, that I want to sort of create something or start, you know, diddling around on my computer or something you know create a flyer or a graphic or whatever. Yeah, explore and play. I think is it's a great time for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely. And creativity you have got more of that drive because you've spent the journaling, you've done all that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah I want to do something, yeah, and because I do think there's a difference between when we, like we were talking earlier about go, go, go, do, go, do, do, do, never stopping. There is a balanced version of that where we can be out there and use our energy and do those things. It's not all about feminine energy lying around not doing anything. There is a balanced way to put things out into the world, you know, and to use our energy.
Speaker 2:So, love that Totally, totally. And yeah, we'll find we are more outward, so we are more of that masculine during this half of our phase as well. So, and then that links to ovulation and it is a shorter phase, but it is still quite a full phase. So this is when you want to keep that energy rising and keep that, boost that highness, the fullness in our cycle. So during this phase, I always recommend having a great playlist that just puts you in that great mood. So when you're driving to work, you've just got, yeah, that you'll notice as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like linking back in your follicular phase. You will also want to wear playful, but this is like next level. It's like, actually, I want to go out and I want to be seen. So sometimes it's fun to have a few outfits that you've already planned, but you're like, yeah, I'm going to wear these and I really am feeling good in myself as well as like a great time to plan social events because you will have more. You've got the estrogens rising, so you've got more energy.
Speaker 2:Usually, if you're in balance and you, yeah, you want to be able to catch up with friends, you'll want to go out for lunch. Don't overdo it, obviously, but yeah, if you're planning like a three-day getaway or something, now's like a great time to do it, depending on what you're doing. But yeah, I like to plan stuff for this phase to make use of that high energy. Also, you can give time to the community during this time. So great time to hold a workshop or go to a workshop. Go to. So great time to hold a workshop or go to a workshop. Go to something that's completely out of your comfort zone. Try a new gym class, try something that's completely different, because you're less likely to feel like that comparison or that vulnerability of like oh, my God, I got there and then I left because, yeah, that does definitely happen.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, during this phase, it's a great time to just get out of your comfort zone, do like, like what's one thing that you've been really like dreaming and journaling of, and just like lock it in for now do it, yeah, because you are attractive and people will be attracted to you and you will, yeah, be a magnet to what you want, more than being in that energy you know, definitely, definitely, and you'll notice your voice is a lot clearer, you are a lot more.
Speaker 2:This is what I want to do. I'm doing, I can articulate compared to no, you choose, or you choose, or you choose, and it's like, oh my gosh, you can't have people like that all the time. You need someone to just be like yeah, this is where we're going for dinner, yeah, so that's like a little summary of what I like to do. And rituals and when I say rituals, like rituals are just moments of connection with yourself. So self-love, self-devotion, anything like that that that's what I see as a ritual, and they can just be small actions. They're not these things that you need to like, pick up on a card and you know, what I mean.
Speaker 2:The word rituals is definitely quite a big word, that's used so often, but it really is just bringing it back to you and thinking, okay, how can I honor where I'm at in my cycle today and to create more of that balance through my cycle and the four phases?
Speaker 1:What about people who are on hormonal birth control or who have gone through menopause or breastfeeding pregnancy any of those things who don't experience a bleed? How can they bring these rituals into their lives?
Speaker 2:So they can tap into the energy of the moon and track, using the phases of the moon. So this is that will be their cycle as such. So, because there's no actual bleed, what we do is we use the phases of the moon to connect to that. So the menstrual phase is connected to the new moon. Because the sky is dark, we're slowing down, we're more in a time of just, yeah, hibernation, keeping to ourselves. So that is the phase the menstrual phase new moon, and then we come to follicular and then ovulation is full moon because the moon is high in the sky, it's so light. We connect that to our ovulation and then we come around to our luteal phase and then when we come back to the new moon, that's when we come back to our menstrual phase. So we use that as our cycle throughout to be able to track, to be able to connect and to be able to use these rituals as well. So that's a really good question.
Speaker 1:I love that. What would you say to people who feel that this is that the menstrual cycle is annoying or sort of change, wanting to change the paradigm from I hate this to embracing it?
Speaker 2:What I would say is to not put pressure on yourself, to be like you know what next cycle I have to love it. Okay, I'm going to start. I'm going to see this as a journey. In the first next cycle, I'm going to just start learning about the four phases. So we'll do that. And then the next one, we'll start looking at, okay, what's one thing I can add into my menstrual phase and slowly evolve as you go.
Speaker 2:Because if you're just I want to change and I want it to change right now, that's just setting yourself up. So it's really about working in chunk size pieces, finding. That's just setting yourself up. So it's really about working in chunk size pieces, finding a good book or even reaching out to a menstrual cycle coach to be able to be like hey, this is what I want to do, how can I work to support these, these goals?
Speaker 2:And that's another thing tracking your cycle and actually seeing what is going on in your cycle, because so often before tracking, you would just feel'm bloated all the time or I'm just I'm here, it's so heavy every month. But it's until you slow down and track each day and make those connections, and after two to three cycles when you can draw those conclusions for yourself or with someone. That's when you can start to make changes, whereas if you have no idea what's going on and then you're like I want to change it, how am I going to do that? So it is slow and it is a process, but it definitely is so so worth it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that you said that, because I think that the biggest thing with the menstrual cycle, cycle tracking, body literacy, all of these things is that it's not overnight and it's literally cycle by cycle by cycle by cycle and the way that it evolves in your life. It's a lifelong practice. It's not a thing that it's like, okay, I'm going to work with a menstrual cycle coach Check, I know everything, I'm healed now. Or, okay, I tracked for months and now I'm good and I'm in my feminine and everything is great. It really is this evolving. Every cycle is different, every lesson is new, everything we learn is. I think it's such a gift and I think that it is something that evolves over so much time, which is fine. You know, I think we want so many things to be fast, but this is such a beautiful, never ending process of learning.
Speaker 2:Totally, totally and, like you, connect. Whatever age you are, you can use this throughout every phase. So right now, I'm 30, but I will use this knowledge when I'm going through pregnancy, when I'm going through postpartum, when I'm going through premenopause menopause it doesn't change, so using it now is just why not you got to start?
Speaker 1:Exactly Cool, yeah, exactly Awesome Cool. All right, georgia. Well, thank you so much. Is there anything else that you wanted to add?
Speaker 2:I feel like that was a beautiful wrap up, but if there's anything else, no, I think that's beautiful, it's been lovely to talk about it and, yeah, I could keep talking, like right now I'm thinking, and that's the thing, there is so much, and yeah, it's all about just connecting, starting connecting, and the more you do it, the more you'll be able to add and learn. So, yeah, thank you Lauren.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and I think that it's the whole thing of the remembering and when we start to connect it, really we already know all these things. It's just that we were disconnected from it for a while. But when we're brought back. It's like you already know. You know what to do. You got your body Exactly. Thank you. Yeah, if our listeners want to find you and you know, maybe stalk you on Instagram or see your offerings and what you have. What is your Instagram? Is it the best way to find you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Instagram or website. So my Insta is Shakti Seeker, so with an underscore at the end, we could probably put it in the notes. Or my website is ShaktiSeekercom. So that's all about seeking more. It's all for the feminine that wants to seek more and the woman that just craves more. So that is Shakti Seeker and that's what I've created. And, yeah, I work with clients one-on-one. I also have an online course as well. It's like so many free resources and, like you said, it's just about making it accessible and there, so that if you want to start, you can just jump on my website and get some resources, see where it takes you. So awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you for your time and for chatting. Thank you, thanks for watching.